Interview with Scenic Designer Walt Spangler

Dael Orlandersmith, Matthew Dean Marsh, and David Cale in You Don’t Know the Lonely One.

photo by B. Docktor

Celebrated set designer Walt Spangler engaged in a thought-provoking conversation with Ancram Opera House staff member Vanessa Baer. The following interview offers a glimpse into Walt's creative process on his latest project, You Don't Know the Lonely One, staged at the Ancram Opera House October 20-29.

Vanessa: You Don't Know the Lonely One is a new production, and this is the piece’s first set design. Can you share your approach to designing for new work?

Walt: Luckily, I came into this process after the creators had already spent a workshop here in Ancram. When they came to me about defining the space here at the Opera House, they were able to show me a lot, including a video. Typically, when starting a new project like this, you often don't have much to work with, and it's a process of making it up as you go. In this case, thanks to the prior workshop, we had a headstart in understanding the project from start to finish.

Another unique aspect is that the workshop took place right here at the Opera House, a space with its own distinct character. The script and the existing space have greatly influenced how this process has gone for me.

V: How has it been working on the Opera House stage?

W: It's been delightful. I visited the space a few weeks ago after watching the video. While I had an idea of the material, I wanted to see the space for myself to really understand the history of the building. I took measurements and photos to create a miniature version in my studio, which inspired the design.

During the visit, people stood in for the performers, and we explored furniture placement through improvisation. We captured photos in the space, with performers' stand-ins portraying isolation and connection scenarios. I shared these options with Bob and the performers, along with mood boards adding details like rugs, the existing grand piano, and contemporary furniture. These elements create an intimate setting, reflecting the theme of isolation in the material.

V: What influenced your design for You Don’t Know the Lonely One?

W: When Bob first talked to me about this project, he mentioned it deals with isolation and loneliness. These themes resonated with me, particularly given the recent pandemic and its impact on people's work and connections. These real-life experiences make the storytelling relatable.

As a set designer, I aim for an open-ended design that can adapt to the performers' personalities, accents, and demeanor. They portray a diverse range of characters in various settings, and interestingly, most of my current projects share the theme of isolation and loneliness. It's fascinating how they all interconnect.

V: You have a history of collaborating with the director, Robert Falls. What is your collaborative approach, how has it evolved over time?

W: I started working with Bob in 2000 when he invited me to design a Rebecca Gilman play at the Goodman Theatre in Chicago. That was our first collaboration, and we've been working together ever since. Most of our projects involve grand, complex stories that demand elaborate scenery.

Our process begins with Bob sharing everything that he has on his mind. I then take his input and work on it for a few weeks, usually returning with a physical miniature model of the space we're working in. We go through the story step by step, often using miniature figures in the model, to help visualize the performers in the space. This process acts like a miniature rehearsal, allowing us to go through the entire story, and that helps us discover what works and what gaps need to be filled, and we repeat it until we feel everything is well-covered.

In the case of our current project we followed a similar process, but we already had the beautiful Ancram Opera House as our stage, with all its unique details, coziness, and history. This time, we worked directly in the space instead of relying on a miniature model.

Because of our long history of collaboration, we've developed a shorthand that helps us understand each other's needs. We know when to describe ideas and when it's better to show them visually. I believe in providing tangible options, allowing people to see, touch, and interact with choices. This approach helps Bob make quick decisions based on his immediate reactions to the performers in the space and the elements I propose. Today, I'm working on some shelving already present in the theater, exploring possibilities for what could be placed on those shelves, from entirely bare to fully adorned. It's my task to present these options to Bob, knowing how important it is for him to see and feel the space before making a decision.

V: I can not wait to see what you’ve done with the space!

W: It's quite simple, really. It's about revealing the space for what it is – its inherent beauty – and using that intimacy to amplify the themes of isolation and loneliness. With just three people in the space, their interactions tell us whether they are together, apart, strangers, or deeply connected.

What's intriguing is the audience's perspective of seeing the entire room, erasing the division between the audience and the stage. This creates a unique communal storytelling experience, suited for solo storytelling without the trappings of traditional theatre.

I'm excited about it. The space itself has its own unique character. Many theaters are often neutral and almost beg for some sort of scenery to be built to cover it up. In this case, my reaction was the opposite – it was about stripping everything that doesn't belong in the theater and showcasing it for what it is.

Walt’s upcoming projects include Babbitt at La Jolla Playhouse, The Apiary, and Make Me Gorgeous.

ANCRAM OPERA HOUSE TO BECOME THE ANCRAM CENTER FOR THE ARTS

Neighboring property in historic hamlet to provide space for community workshops, audience gatherings, and artist/intern housing

ANCRAM, NY [September 8, 2022] - Ancram Opera House introduces The Ancram Center for the Arts as they expand their campus to include a community meeting room, outdoor areas for audience gatherings pre- and post-show, and housing for artists and interns. A volunteer clean-up day and ground-breaking ceremony will be held on Saturday, September 24. 

New York City and Hillsdale-based Ackert Architecture PC has created a design to link the newly acquired property at 1326 County Route 7, to be known as The Annex, with the existing Opera House in ways that are historically sensitive and which integrate current standards for accessibility in both buildings, to create the Ancram Center for the Arts. Both buildings are zoned within Ancram’s Central Business District and are close to the hamlet’s main intersection. 

“This expansion is in direct response to community requests for expanded programming and opportunities,” AOH co-director Jeffrey Mousseau explained. “It reflects our already thriving programs, a commitment to sustaining them, and  an investment in our future as a vital  resource for Ancram and beyond.”

“This project represents so much exciting progress for Ancram, and we really feel the community’s support behind us,”  AOH co-director Paul Ricciardi added.  “We hope everyone will join in and help us create this really needed community space for all.”

The ground-breaking ceremony,  which is open to the public, kicks off at 2:00 pm, AOH board chair Cathy Redlich, Ancram Town Supervisor Art Bassin, Assembly member Didi Barrett, and Mousseau and Ricciardi will all make brief remarks. Weather permitting this will be an outdoor event.

Volunteers are welcome - no experience necessary - for shifts from noon-2 pm and 2-4 pm. Gloves, dust masks, hard hats (kindly donated by Herrington’s Lumber), water and snacks provided. To get involved, email info@ancramoperahouse.org.

This restoration project is supported in part by a grant from the New York Office of Homes and Community Renewal’s Main Streets Program.

The 1,300 square foot, two story post-and-beam structure is believed to have been constructed by descendants of the Livingston family in 1780. It has been vacant for some time, but is structurally sound. 

The Ancram Center for the Arts will be fully accessible. The current administrative office on the main floor of the Opera House will be converted into an ADA compliant restroom. Ramps, other walkways, and approaches will be designed to provide improved accessibility throughout. 

Additional housing for artists and interns will allow Mousseau and Ricciardi to offer opportunities to a larger and more diverse group. “There is a lack of affordable housing in the area so we will offer housing right on the campus,” Mousseau explained. “That simple amenity will enable us to provide opportunities to a broader and more diverse group, not just people who can afford to commute or to rent temporary housing in Columbia County.”  

The HVAC system will be replaced to achieve exceptional levels in ventilation and air purification. Last, but not least, the project will address and improve the parking.

Artistically, Mousseau and Ricciardi are committed to community engagement, providing the historic hamlet of Ancram and the surrounding rural area with opportunities to connect through the arts and educational programs. 

They also want to position the Ancram Center for the Arts at the forefront in the development of bold new performances for the American theater, created by artists of diverse backgrounds. A commitment to fostering diversity and inclusion in the arts is central to their work; and AOH has welcomed extraordinary artists as Heather Christian, Diana Oh, Stew, and Taylor Mac as they developed new projects. 

Mousseau and Ricciardi took over operations for AOH in 2016, transforming it into a professional non-profit theater, starting out with few resources beyond their passion and determination. Over six seasons, including two pandemic years, they have garnered acclaim from audiences and been the recipient of a Berkshire Theater Critics’ Award.

 In 2021, Ancram Opera House produced 90 events, including productions, concerts, and workshops reaching approximately 1,700 individuals through live and virtual offerings. Half of all events were free, consistent with a commitment  to making theater accessible to all.

Now, AOH activities extend to eight  months of the year, creating opportunities for artists to develop and  showcase new work, presenting concerts and readings, and producing two fully-staged theatrical productions each year. Riccardi helms an original storytelling program which is now an established part of the curriculum at the Taconic Hills School, supporting their literacy development programs for middle-school students. 

2022 SPONSORS

The 2022 season at the Ancram Opera House is made possible by the New York State Council on the Arts with the support of the Office of the Governor and the New York State Legislature.

LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

Ancram Center is located on unceded,  ancestral lands of the Muh-he-con-ne-ok,  the Peoples of the Waters That Are Never  Still, and overlooks the Roeliff Jansen Kill,  which was once called the Sonkippog (cooling water). We pay tribute to and honor the  history of those who precede us here.  

ABOUT THE ANCRAM OPERA HOUSE

Located in southern Columbia County, the Ancram Opera House presents a mix of contemporary theatre, alternative cabaret, and community programs. The Opera House was erected in 1927 as  Grange #955, a chapter of the National  Grange of the Patrons of Husbandry, a  movement founded shortly after the Civil  War to advance methods of agriculture  and address the needs of farmers. In 1972,  the grange was repurposed as a performance  hall presenting operatic fare.  AOH offers audiences a unique opportunity to directly engage, up close, with visionary theatre artists at the top of their field who are rarely seen in our region. For more information visit www.ancramoperahouse.org

Q&A with Stew and Heidi

A conversation with Stew & Heidi 

Courtesy of OFF SCRIPT with DAN DWYER on WHDD Robin Hood Radio

Dan Dwyer: Stew let’s start with you. Why do you call the show Staged Dives?

Stew: Like everything with us we’re always trying to reference what we think we actually are, which is a rock band that started off playing dive bars. We think that’s what makes us unique in the theatre world and so we’re constantly trying to be a theatrical version of a dive bar band.

Dan: My frame of your music is largely informed by Passing Strange. Which I think is just a fabulous score I mean, it’s rock, it’s got funk, it’s got soul. So how do you describe the kind of music you write? 

Stew: Our music comes from a particular generation, whatever they call people my age, fifty-seven years old, everything you just mentioned in the show, is everything I grew up listening to. 

Heidi and I grew up listening to the exact same radio stations: the soul station, the indie punk rock station, and everything in between and that’s what we are, we are that.

Dan: So Passing Strange is pretty autobiographical, right?

Stew: We call it “autobiographical fiction” which is to say everything that’s in the play is definitely influenced or inspired by real events. But it’s not strictly autobiographical, we just use my life as a starting point. It’s as much James Baldwin’s story as it mine. It’s Josephine Baker’s story. So many people I meet tell me it’s their story. It’s really not strictly mine.

Dan: Were you prepared, Heidi, at all for the kind of critical reaction you got to Passing Strange? 

Heidi: The biggest compliment somebody could give us (was) like “I hate musicals but I love Passing Strange. I grew up on musicals, I love musicals, but it wasn’t like we were trying to fit into that world. 

Dan: Why Ancram Opera House?

Stew: Well…artists always play places that are highly recommended by other artists, that’s the bottom line. I was talking to David Cale, he mentioned the place, and that was pretty much all I needed y’know? We’re privileged to have been able to play giant performing arts centers and big cities. But, Heidi will tell you the gigs that mean a lot to us are the gigs in these unique, intimate spaces.

Heidi: Stew and I spend a lot of time in cars, driving across the country. We get a lot done talking about what we’re gonna do and it all kind of happens in the car. I think playing up there, more than just us being in that amazing place, is us going up there and going out of town. It’s really special for us to do a show up there.